bruuuno 11:26 Fri Aug 24
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Anyone have it or have kids with it? what is the medication like?
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Stubbo
11:29 Fri Aug 24
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There's a US docu-film about it and the dosing of kids with it (is basically controlled prescription of amphetamines).
Can't recall the title but was worth a look.
Overriding conclusion was battle through without the drugs if I recall, coming from the kids that had been given it through their childhoods.
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Stubbo
11:30 Fri Aug 24
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"Take Your Pills" it's called and focusses on the drugs Aderall and Ritalin
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Darlo Debs
11:31 Fri Aug 24
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Isnt the drug called Ritilin?
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Stubbo
11:36 Fri Aug 24
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Yep Ritalin and Adderall.
The film is on Netflix if you're interested. Not purely focussed on ADHD but on the use of the drugs by the full cross section in the States.
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Stubbo
11:38 Fri Aug 24
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Also my wife teaches in a SEN school primarily for kids diagnosed ADHD or Autistic spectrum so have some minor insight through her
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bruuuno
11:39 Fri Aug 24
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Some people have found that microdosing LSD has the benefits of stimulants without the negative side effects
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gph
11:47 Fri Aug 24
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Apart from kids trying to fly instead of getting bored too quickly?
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Mike Oxsaw
11:54 Fri Aug 24
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No. And I don't have time for all this.
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The Dursley Massive
12:01 Sat Aug 25
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Ritalin is a tricky one.
I’ve seen kids who are totally unteachable if they’ve not taken their morning dose. You know they’ve missed their meds instantly. Just crazy, and almost impossible for them to learn.
It can be a real appetite suppressant for some kids, which can cause problems when they’re fucking exhausted from not eating.
Doctors are now thankfully a bit more reluctant to prescribe than 6 or 7 years ago when (like antidepressants) they were dishing them out like sweets. If the doctor/ed psych is suggesting them then probably worth doing it. They review dosage regularly and try to keep the dose as low as possible.
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chiff
5:26 Sun Aug 26
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My grandson has ADHD which I recognized when he was two years old. I was at the time a SEN teacher at a specialist residential school fast forward several years and we were advised to go down the medication route. We refused, choosing to manage the condition through keeping him active largely through sport, namely football and rugby. The problem was that his school chose not to recognise the condition, refusing all strategies to help him in the classroom. So we removed him from school and put him in a school that recognized the condition. In his teens he grew out of it to some extent. Nevertheless for the parent or guardian or in our case his kindship carer it can be exhausting.
In recent years the government have chosen to take the view that the problem does not exist, purely to save money. As both a grandparent carer and professional I can tell you this condition is a reality with some children.
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bruuuno
6:07 Sun Aug 26
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I’d love to punch in the face some of these doctors who deny its existence.
Currently a two year wait for an appointment with an ADHD specialist in my city
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Spandex Sidney
6:11 Sun Aug 26
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Did this exist 30/40/50 years ago? I don't remember it being a problem.
Not saying it doesn't exist, just seems a modern phenomenon in my limited life experience
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bruuuno
6:43 Sun Aug 26
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It’s likely that it did Sidney, but people just suffered their whole lives instead of being given treatment to help them.
In the same way that ptsd didn’t exist after the Second World War yet thousands of veterans turned to drink and isolated themselves from their families and society
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orwells tragedy
6:57 Sun Aug 26
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Maybe people didn't pump their kids full of sugar 30/40/50yrs ago.
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Stubbo
7:14 Sun Aug 26
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Mu understanding is that there is a genuine condition, but also that not infrequently there are cases where those proposed to have said condition are products of their home environment (lack of discipline/structure/routine, disrupted and unstable homelife etc) .
The trouble with behavioral conditions is the root cause isn't always identified (especially with some of those kids marked on the "spectrum") where some parents are looking to have their kid classified to gain assistance, and an excuse for the way things have panned out, without first looking to see if what they're doing at home could have any influence (kids that have been marked as having behavioural conditions who don't know if they're coming or going, they're moved between parents, grandparents, different houses, etc etc week to week, left to their own devices and the way they are is a means to gain attention or focus etc).
It's a tricky subject for sure.
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gph
7:18 Sun Aug 26
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"Maybe people didn't pump their kids full of sugar 30/40/50yrs ago."
*remembers sugar sandwiches*
Try 60/70 years ago.
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penners28
7:19 Sun Aug 26
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When i was younger it was naughty kids, now its adhd....
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bruuuno
7:21 Sun Aug 26
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Orwell - hyperactivity is just one spectrum of the disorder.
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chiff
8:51 Sun Aug 26
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Both stubbo and gbh make good points. In my grandsonsn's case he had a very good diet with as little sugary drinks, E numbers and colours. At nineteen he still follows this diet, though they call it clean eating today.
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